And while we're at it let's not forget about Tiffany Dover. Tiffany Dover. At the very least it’s all about public and private health care providers’ lack of transparency. On the other end of the spectrum, it could be an example of unfathomable criminality on a worldwide scale. To that end, I have written a new song entitled WHERE HAVE YOU GONE TIFFANY DOVER? You can take a listen if you check out my newsletter at https://turfseer.substack.com/p/where-have-you-gone-tiffany-dover
I have written over 40 songs related to the “plandemic” and medical tyranny. Subscribe to my newsletter so you can listen to my songs, watch music videos, and find out the story behind them. I also post from time-to-time bonus material including ezines with links to important websites and blogs detailing the alternative Covid narrative point of view.
It certainly is nice to get some more RCT data on this. As you insinuated, on the other hand, it wasn't needed, because we don't have to prove to the rain dance crowd that their method doesn't work, the burden of proof unequivocally lies on their side and this is actually one of those points that's easy to defend in a debate.
But of course I'm talking reason again and that's why I lose. I can hear their argument: "They're only comparing different types of masks with each other, but not to the naked face (yuck!). So masks still work." To which you might reply: "But high-quality studies comparing medical masking to no masking also failed to find a significant difference with an effect size of any note whatsoever." At which moment this magically becomes evidence for their point of view: "Yes, because the effect is hidden in those messy comparisons. You can see the trend in the data, significant or not. Now if we had compared N95 respirators to those gnarly naked mugs, for sure there would have been statistical significance paired with a good effect size."
It saddens me a bit that this way of thinking has now become a part of me through years of anticipating and despairing over it.
Thank you, Peter. Clearly you are better at searching than I am, as I couldn't and still cannot get it to come up in a search, though I have been able to access it with the link you provided. Glad to see that science is vindicating those who see the truth from the lies that are inundating us. I do appreciate your taking the time to respond. Have a great evening.
I went to the link you just sent and see no citation of the study article mentioned in your post. Your posting another article that makes a claim without fact checking said claim via the study purported to justify it is also not good practice, since the post may be unfounded. I am a medical doctor, I am on your side of the discussion, but find too many people loosely disseminate information without a careful read of the facts. I still have no means to verify the claims you republished nor do I see any mention of said article in the link you just provided. We need to have hard evidence before any of what we claim can have real teeth, especially if we approach school boards, state health authorities or government officials.
In the intention-to-treat analysis, RT-PCR–confirmed COVID-19 occurred in 52 of 497 (10.46%) participants in the medical mask group versus 47 of 507 (9.27%) in the N95 respirator group (hazard ratio [HR], 1.14 [95% CI, 0.77 to 1.69]).
An unplanned subgroup analysis by country found that in the medical mask group versus the N95 respirator group RT-PCR–confirmed COVID-19 occurred in 8 of 131 (6.11%) versus 3 of 135 (2.22%)
in Canada (HR, 2.83 [CI, 0.75 to 10.72]), 6 of 17 (35.29%) versus 4 of 17 (23.53%)
in Israel (HR, 1.54 [CI, 0.43 to 5.49]), 3 of 92 (3.26%) versus 2 of 94 (2.13%)
in Pakistan (HR, 1.50 [CI, 0.25 to 8.98]), and 35 of 257 (13.62%) versus 38 of 261 (14.56%)
in Egypt (HR, 0.95 [CI, 0.60 to 1.50]).
There were 47 (10.8%) adverse events related to the intervention reported in the medical mask group and 59 (13.6%) in the N95 respirator group.
One of my pet peeves with regard to reporting on evidence that counters the mainstream narrative is not providing specific links or citations to the evidence cited. Being unable to find the quoted study makes such claims in your article essentially worthless. All good arguments depend on facts, and facts must be verifiable. Thank you for the work you do. Adding such citations will enhance its quality and impact.
As long as the tyrants at the gate control the Govt whether at Washington or your State and they cling to the “emergency powers” related to this pandemic and they refuse to give them up we will have many more useless mask mandates...it is a sign of their power over ALL of us...and OUR KIDS. It also manipulates the youngsters and mentally destabilizes the impressionable kids into later life making them afraid when they should not be of other.
Turfseer’s hit duet between a mask-wearing zealot and a medical freedom fighter. Check IT’S JUST A MASK out here on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/turfseer/its-just-a-mask
And while we're at it let's not forget about Tiffany Dover. Tiffany Dover. At the very least it’s all about public and private health care providers’ lack of transparency. On the other end of the spectrum, it could be an example of unfathomable criminality on a worldwide scale. To that end, I have written a new song entitled WHERE HAVE YOU GONE TIFFANY DOVER? You can take a listen if you check out my newsletter at https://turfseer.substack.com/p/where-have-you-gone-tiffany-dover
I have written over 40 songs related to the “plandemic” and medical tyranny. Subscribe to my newsletter so you can listen to my songs, watch music videos, and find out the story behind them. I also post from time-to-time bonus material including ezines with links to important websites and blogs detailing the alternative Covid narrative point of view.
It certainly is nice to get some more RCT data on this. As you insinuated, on the other hand, it wasn't needed, because we don't have to prove to the rain dance crowd that their method doesn't work, the burden of proof unequivocally lies on their side and this is actually one of those points that's easy to defend in a debate.
But of course I'm talking reason again and that's why I lose. I can hear their argument: "They're only comparing different types of masks with each other, but not to the naked face (yuck!). So masks still work." To which you might reply: "But high-quality studies comparing medical masking to no masking also failed to find a significant difference with an effect size of any note whatsoever." At which moment this magically becomes evidence for their point of view: "Yes, because the effect is hidden in those messy comparisons. You can see the trend in the data, significant or not. Now if we had compared N95 respirators to those gnarly naked mugs, for sure there would have been statistical significance paired with a good effect size."
It saddens me a bit that this way of thinking has now become a part of me through years of anticipating and despairing over it.
Thank you, Peter. Clearly you are better at searching than I am, as I couldn't and still cannot get it to come up in a search, though I have been able to access it with the link you provided. Glad to see that science is vindicating those who see the truth from the lies that are inundating us. I do appreciate your taking the time to respond. Have a great evening.
You are welcome. A good evening to you too.
I went to the link you just sent and see no citation of the study article mentioned in your post. Your posting another article that makes a claim without fact checking said claim via the study purported to justify it is also not good practice, since the post may be unfounded. I am a medical doctor, I am on your side of the discussion, but find too many people loosely disseminate information without a careful read of the facts. I still have no means to verify the claims you republished nor do I see any mention of said article in the link you just provided. We need to have hard evidence before any of what we claim can have real teeth, especially if we approach school boards, state health authorities or government officials.
ok, i did a little more digging and got to this AIM journal piece.
easy enough to search for it, though i appreciate your time is more valuable than mine.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M22-1966#.Y4Vu0QyBfBQ.twitter
there is this article also referencing the substack piece.
https://brownstone.org/articles/not-even-n95-masks-work-to-stop-covid/
The AIM journal has this:
In the intention-to-treat analysis, RT-PCR–confirmed COVID-19 occurred in 52 of 497 (10.46%) participants in the medical mask group versus 47 of 507 (9.27%) in the N95 respirator group (hazard ratio [HR], 1.14 [95% CI, 0.77 to 1.69]).
An unplanned subgroup analysis by country found that in the medical mask group versus the N95 respirator group RT-PCR–confirmed COVID-19 occurred in 8 of 131 (6.11%) versus 3 of 135 (2.22%)
in Canada (HR, 2.83 [CI, 0.75 to 10.72]), 6 of 17 (35.29%) versus 4 of 17 (23.53%)
in Israel (HR, 1.54 [CI, 0.43 to 5.49]), 3 of 92 (3.26%) versus 2 of 94 (2.13%)
in Pakistan (HR, 1.50 [CI, 0.25 to 8.98]), and 35 of 257 (13.62%) versus 38 of 261 (14.56%)
in Egypt (HR, 0.95 [CI, 0.60 to 1.50]).
There were 47 (10.8%) adverse events related to the intervention reported in the medical mask group and 59 (13.6%) in the N95 respirator group.
One of my pet peeves with regard to reporting on evidence that counters the mainstream narrative is not providing specific links or citations to the evidence cited. Being unable to find the quoted study makes such claims in your article essentially worthless. All good arguments depend on facts, and facts must be verifiable. Thank you for the work you do. Adding such citations will enhance its quality and impact.
it's not my article, - i extracted swhat I consider to be salient points from it
it was taken from here:
https://ianmsc.substack.com/p/new-study-disproves-expert-messaging#§finally-another-rct-on-mask-wearing
perhaps you could post your comment to the ianmsc.substack.com i
I am not a paid subscriber to that site.
As long as the tyrants at the gate control the Govt whether at Washington or your State and they cling to the “emergency powers” related to this pandemic and they refuse to give them up we will have many more useless mask mandates...it is a sign of their power over ALL of us...and OUR KIDS. It also manipulates the youngsters and mentally destabilizes the impressionable kids into later life making them afraid when they should not be of other.
It is looking more and more like EUA = military dictatorship - as in "war measures"
Masks are the universal symbol of slavery.
DO NOT COMPLY!