Playing with numbers. It would take a fall of 85% in births PLUS an excess mortality rate of 400% to get to a 30% reduction in world population in ten years
Playing with numbers. It would take a fall of 85% in births PLUS an excess mortality rate of 400% to get to a 30% reduction in world population in ten years
Interesting number games. India, China and Japan have already been mentioned by others. The Philippines, where I currently am, apparently dipped below replacement level for the first time ever after the jab roll-out. So with Asia not really up to speed anymore, we'll have to rely on our African and Middle Eastern friends (as well as hardcore Catholics and Mormons) to keep the ball rolling :)
Sorry by the way, can't afford to buy you a coffee at this moment in time, my friend.
Worry about something else. The rate of global population growth is declining, and the world's human population will top out later this century. The very profound problems that this will bring are already starting. Worry about that.
IF there was a depopulation conspiracy by eco-terrorists, they most likely would focus their earth saving efforts on cultures with the highest consumption and pollution rates per capita. Leaving emerging nations out of your analysis would change the results considerably. The western cultures would die off much quicker than you estimated
Possible math error? "Annual births around 134 million. Annual deaths around 67 million. A fall in the birth rate of 15% would equate to 13.4 million fewer births and a 15% increase in deaths would equate to 6.7 million more deaths."
It looks like those results were obtained using multiplication by 10%, not 15%.
Respectfully Joe, who you or I vote for hasn't mattered in AZ for 40 years. I've lived in AZ for 4 decades and I have yet to meet the first person who would admit they voted for John McCain - and yet his repeated re-election was never seriously contested. The vote winners in AZ are irrefutably predetermined (statistical certainty) before the first (citizen?) vote is cast. The outcome has always been engineered as recently evidenced in 2020 and 2022. I doubt there are ANY States today with truly fair and honest elections. So tell me again never to vote for a Democrat and tell me why that matters. It never has in 40 years.
This is why I support unlimited abortion. The VAST majority of seekers are Democrat women. The sooner they opt out of the gene pool, the better for the rest of us. The rest? Well, that's between them and God, if they are believers.
Um I beg to differ, assuming you are talking about Planned Parenthood. The vast majority are minorities and the abortion racket is just another eugenics tool. Check out the neighborhoods where the PP are located.
Affluent Democrat women can always afford their own service providers.
Perhaps it’s the next generation where we will see the most damage. Those born to mrna vaccinated mothers. Or the next generation after that. Sure will be interesting
A four-part series. A retired educationalist tours the evidence of how Britain has distinguished itself since 2020 in the treatment of its youngest. Is anyone accountable for the harm inflicted on children?
Dec 22, 2022·edited Dec 22, 2022Liked by Peter Halligan
I understand that given the ageing population of much of the Western World and its current “less than replacement” birthrates it’s not hard to see a decrease in world population. Japan is in rapid decline as India falls below replacement. Also China after its disastrous one child policy, despite a reversal, is predicting a fall from 1.3B to say 750M by 2075.
This was without the devastating impact on fertility from Covid and other jabs. A Malthusian dream but one that will cripple nations looking for a workforce and a market to support growth.
Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs - NumbersUSA.com
Key take-way for me was that illegal immigrants deprive their own countries of their talents as well as putting a strain on the countries they show up in!
As Zeihan points out that the US has a younger population which will help their economy and in a curious way the influx of illegal immigrants might also drive down the average age giving them a greater population of working age.
In addition I didn’t see anyone cite the age profiles of key nations to estimate the contribution to population loss.
I seem to remember for example the Japanese were in a precarious position with a rapidly (Covid driven) fall on top of previously very weak numbers and a high proportion of ageing citizens.
Foreigner in Japan here - depopulation is not without its problems, and Japan's birthrate is even lower than anticipated. S. Korea, Taiwan, China all similar.
They could be managing things a whole lot better, they are still paving over farmland and seeing it go abandoned due to a lack of young farmers, for example - even though the dependence on food imports is around 70%...
On the up side, you can get houses out in the sticks for dirt cheap and even near cities get farmland to use for essentially just keeping it from growing up in weeds and brush.
Japan could definitely use some well-considered immigration, but I'd much rather be in a country with fairly strict immigration rules and a declining population than one with borders run by cartels and runaway population increase.
Anyway, high birthrates these days are almost exclusively in Africa and the Middle East - it's not feasible to alleviate that significantly with immigration to Western countries and low-birthrate countries in any case don't have any obligation to subject themselves to mass immigration if they choose not to.
Getting population reduction in the most humane way possible should be the priority - but I doubt humane is a big consideration for the WEF.
Inadvertently posted as a new comment, rather than a reply!
Peter Halligan
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Sounds like a place I would be happy in, though a place with a lot less effort needed to maintain, - any tips? preferably in an area that speaks a lot of English? haha!
The point about population decline is well made... but.. the increase in the rate of decline would be needed as the annual global deaths and births have captured the state of play today.
No doubt there might be (small?) increases in the rate.
A depopulation agenda for a 30% population decline implies a drop of a little under 40 million in Japan's 125 million people.
Dec 22, 2022·edited Dec 22, 2022Liked by Peter Halligan
You forget lots of ways to get to the death numbers. A leaky vaccine created a disease so bad that the entire chicken industry must vaccinate all of its chickens at birth. It worked great at first. In the end the vaccinated create super strains to kill the unvaccinated.
“The issue is with non-sterilizing vaccines” These are vaccines that do not stop transmission but prevent death.
“The Marek’s disease vaccine is a very good anti-disease vaccine, but in terms of the virus, it’s a leaky vaccine; it lets the virus get through to the host.”
“Marek’s disease vaccination allowed super hot strains to spread in ways that would not be possible otherwise.”
Very good point. The immediate and longer-term post vax health effects are more than reason enough to stop. But an even more compelling reason may be that continuing mass vaccination may be driving the development of more virulent strains.
In the case of Marek's disease they determined that the combination of (leaky) vaccination and confined conditions created evolutionary pathways for extremely virulent strains of the disease that otherwise would have hit evolutionary dead ends, killing off their hosts so completely that they would have no way to transmit themselves.
So are you for killing off people with the jabs and making them sterile?
Absolutely not. The position put forward is what the enemy is planning.
I can see Billium Gates greedily rubbing his hands in glee as he reads this report. Depop plan is on track!
Interesting number games. India, China and Japan have already been mentioned by others. The Philippines, where I currently am, apparently dipped below replacement level for the first time ever after the jab roll-out. So with Asia not really up to speed anymore, we'll have to rely on our African and Middle Eastern friends (as well as hardcore Catholics and Mormons) to keep the ball rolling :)
Sorry by the way, can't afford to buy you a coffee at this moment in time, my friend.
no worries.. MERRY CHIRSTMAS!
((don't forget about the Amish!)
Worry about something else. The rate of global population growth is declining, and the world's human population will top out later this century. The very profound problems that this will bring are already starting. Worry about that.
IF there was a depopulation conspiracy by eco-terrorists, they most likely would focus their earth saving efforts on cultures with the highest consumption and pollution rates per capita. Leaving emerging nations out of your analysis would change the results considerably. The western cultures would die off much quicker than you estimated
Possible math error? "Annual births around 134 million. Annual deaths around 67 million. A fall in the birth rate of 15% would equate to 13.4 million fewer births and a 15% increase in deaths would equate to 6.7 million more deaths."
It looks like those results were obtained using multiplication by 10%, not 15%.
Carry on...
not just a possible math error, an actual error! thanks for picking it up.
Please... PLEASE... stop voting democrat!
Never ever vote for one!
Respectfully Joe, who you or I vote for hasn't mattered in AZ for 40 years. I've lived in AZ for 4 decades and I have yet to meet the first person who would admit they voted for John McCain - and yet his repeated re-election was never seriously contested. The vote winners in AZ are irrefutably predetermined (statistical certainty) before the first (citizen?) vote is cast. The outcome has always been engineered as recently evidenced in 2020 and 2022. I doubt there are ANY States today with truly fair and honest elections. So tell me again never to vote for a Democrat and tell me why that matters. It never has in 40 years.
I can't argue with that!! Almost all is a mess!
This is why I support unlimited abortion. The VAST majority of seekers are Democrat women. The sooner they opt out of the gene pool, the better for the rest of us. The rest? Well, that's between them and God, if they are believers.
Um I beg to differ, assuming you are talking about Planned Parenthood. The vast majority are minorities and the abortion racket is just another eugenics tool. Check out the neighborhoods where the PP are located.
Affluent Democrat women can always afford their own service providers.
Roughly 90% of African Americans (fortunately some are finally waking up) vote D. How am I wrong?
No you are not wrong. Your analysis is on point.
If liberals want to sterilize themselves then GO FOR IT. Less stupid mean people producing little stupid mean people...
Perhaps it’s the next generation where we will see the most damage. Those born to mrna vaccinated mothers. Or the next generation after that. Sure will be interesting
I'm afraid we won't have to wait that long.
More frightening than anything else is simply going out in public and observing the zombies, who remain entirely unaware.
The "land of the Living Dead" springs to mind.
Or, "Living Democrats."
Either way.
Hugh McCarthy
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A four-part series. A retired educationalist tours the evidence of how Britain has distinguished itself since 2020 in the treatment of its youngest. Is anyone accountable for the harm inflicted on children?
Read the article here
I understand that given the ageing population of much of the Western World and its current “less than replacement” birthrates it’s not hard to see a decrease in world population. Japan is in rapid decline as India falls below replacement. Also China after its disastrous one child policy, despite a reversal, is predicting a fall from 1.3B to say 750M by 2075.
This was without the devastating impact on fertility from Covid and other jabs. A Malthusian dream but one that will cripple nations looking for a workforce and a market to support growth.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/facing-demographic-doom-chinas-army-retirees-returns-work-post-zero-covid-economic
Peter Zeihan. “Mapping the Collapse of Globalisation” on YouTube Is an interesting reflection on global population dynamics.
This one too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs - NumbersUSA.com
Key take-way for me was that illegal immigrants deprive their own countries of their talents as well as putting a strain on the countries they show up in!
As Zeihan points out that the US has a younger population which will help their economy and in a curious way the influx of illegal immigrants might also drive down the average age giving them a greater population of working age.
In addition I didn’t see anyone cite the age profiles of key nations to estimate the contribution to population loss.
I seem to remember for example the Japanese were in a precarious position with a rapidly (Covid driven) fall on top of previously very weak numbers and a high proportion of ageing citizens.
Foreigner in Japan here - depopulation is not without its problems, and Japan's birthrate is even lower than anticipated. S. Korea, Taiwan, China all similar.
They could be managing things a whole lot better, they are still paving over farmland and seeing it go abandoned due to a lack of young farmers, for example - even though the dependence on food imports is around 70%...
On the up side, you can get houses out in the sticks for dirt cheap and even near cities get farmland to use for essentially just keeping it from growing up in weeds and brush.
Japan could definitely use some well-considered immigration, but I'd much rather be in a country with fairly strict immigration rules and a declining population than one with borders run by cartels and runaway population increase.
Anyway, high birthrates these days are almost exclusively in Africa and the Middle East - it's not feasible to alleviate that significantly with immigration to Western countries and low-birthrate countries in any case don't have any obligation to subject themselves to mass immigration if they choose not to.
Getting population reduction in the most humane way possible should be the priority - but I doubt humane is a big consideration for the WEF.
Inadvertently posted as a new comment, rather than a reply!
Peter Halligan
1 hr ago
Author
Sounds like a place I would be happy in, though a place with a lot less effort needed to maintain, - any tips? preferably in an area that speaks a lot of English? haha!
The point about population decline is well made... but.. the increase in the rate of decline would be needed as the annual global deaths and births have captured the state of play today.
No doubt there might be (small?) increases in the rate.
A depopulation agenda for a 30% population decline implies a drop of a little under 40 million in Japan's 125 million people.
That would be - is becoming - a Black-Death-like event, at least in the West, yes?
The Black Death killed 30 percent to 60 percent of the European population, as well as about one-third of the population of the Middle East - so yes!
You forget lots of ways to get to the death numbers. A leaky vaccine created a disease so bad that the entire chicken industry must vaccinate all of its chickens at birth. It worked great at first. In the end the vaccinated create super strains to kill the unvaccinated.
“The issue is with non-sterilizing vaccines” These are vaccines that do not stop transmission but prevent death.
“The Marek’s disease vaccine is a very good anti-disease vaccine, but in terms of the virus, it’s a leaky vaccine; it lets the virus get through to the host.”
“Marek’s disease vaccination allowed super hot strains to spread in ways that would not be possible otherwise.”
https://asm.org/Podcasts/MTM/Episodes/095-The-Evolution-of-Virulence-with-Andrew-Read
Very good point. The immediate and longer-term post vax health effects are more than reason enough to stop. But an even more compelling reason may be that continuing mass vaccination may be driving the development of more virulent strains.
In the case of Marek's disease they determined that the combination of (leaky) vaccination and confined conditions created evolutionary pathways for extremely virulent strains of the disease that otherwise would have hit evolutionary dead ends, killing off their hosts so completely that they would have no way to transmit themselves.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous