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Sherman's avatar

Hi Peter, quick request: it would be great if you can analyze market value or in the case of Moderna, their invested value for the past 10 years, from 2009 to 2019, then compare those results to 2020 - 2023? Reason? David Martin has a few choice words to say about Pfizer in his May 6th and Sept 13th presentations. If I remember correctly, Pfizer's shares or market valuation had been sliding year over year, from 2009 onward (your favorite word). Moderna was shedding people and looking at shutting down operations by 2018, with no viable product to market for the prior 10 plus years of development. This information came out early on from David Martin, maybe in the Plandemic documentary or maybe elsewhere. We were hanging on every word he said, so who knows where!

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Peter Halligan's avatar

Moderna is a device not a company. Any analysis of the financials would need to factor in the likelihood of more tax payer funds siphoned from HHS - BARDA

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-moderna-funding-idUSKCN24R0IN

https://brownstone.org/articles/proof-vaccines-were-military-backed-countermeasure/

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/24/fact-check-donations-research-grants-helped-fund-moderna-vaccine/6398486002/

1 to 1.5 to 2.5 billion bucks?

then there's DARPA funding

https://investors.modernatx.com/news/news-details/2020/DARPA-Awards-Moderna-up-to-56-Million-to-Enable-Small-Scale-Rapid-Mobile-Manufacturing-of-Nucleic-Acid-Vaccines-and-Therapeutics/default.aspx

https://www.ft.com/content/2be1f87e-9e96-4e23-9cc5-33ba35e50586

ironic stuff "US government’s Darpa probes Moderna’s vaccine patents

Researchers accuse biotech company of failing to disclose federal grants in patents which also cover Covid-19 candidate "

How much else from DARPA - chicken feed in a budget that lost a trillion bucks over the years.

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Sherman's avatar

AND if Pfizer was sliding 30 to 40% in share price from 2009 to 2019 they'd have plenty of reasons to jump into dangerous and deadly, ineffective shots to save their corporation?

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Peter Halligan's avatar

They have more of a portfolio of drugs, but as you say, nothing lasts forever

https://moneyinc.com/the-five-highest-selling-pfizer-drugs-of-all-time/

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Sherman's avatar

Merck started to get involved w these shots, then backed down, settled for monoclonals. Keep waiting for another big shoe or boot to drop, as it appears something was afoot in 2017-2019 timeframe (maybe the truth circulating that all modRNA test animals had died?) that remains in shadows, not come fully into the light.

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Sherman's avatar

And it was made clear by Tony Fauci in 2017, furthering his "universal flu vaccine" program or agenda, that he wanted Pfizer to take the lead and Moderna to be second. Gotta wonder if his intention was to "save" these companies in trouble...a more historical view can be important.

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TimeIsNear's avatar

Interesting how they all started increasing around 2018/19. It's as if some investors had foreknowledge. Pfizer is the only odd one and may be explained by all the poisons... I meant lifesaving drugs they make. Reminds me of the all the stock trading before 2001. Always watch big stock moves since this will tell you something. Like Defense Stocks going up.

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