A bit off topic, Peter, did you see this in the Wash Post? - - https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/11/29/life-expectancy-2022-united-states/ - - ..."Newly published data on life expectancy in the United States shows a partial rebound from the worst phase of the coronavirus pandemic, but drug overdoses, homicides and chronic illnesses such as heart disease continue to drive a long-term mortality crisis that has made this country an outlier in longevity among wealthy nations.
Life expectancy in 2022 rose more than a full year, to 77.5 years, in data released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than four-fifths of this positive jump was attributable to a drop in covid-19 deaths."...and it goes on about other countries. My assumption is the CDC is plain making this up, as more excess death news continues to roll in. What's your take?
To translate that to average life we would need to see the different age buckets to see the proportions dying by age.
There may be a few "dumbfounding" factors like the millions of illegal immigrants and their relatively younger ages that will have an impact - 3-4 million in 2022?
2023 numbers are showing some abatement to the extra deaths - maybe down to an extra 250,000 instead of the extra 560,000 in each of 2020, 2021 and 2022 - fingers crossed.
those recent year numbers are not "excess" deaths and do not adjust for population growth.
No matter how WaPo tries to spin it, the "pull forward" effect that bludgeons the elderly and infirm SHOULD have resulted in deaths that are way below 2019 levels - with, what I suspect should have been a large INCREASE in average life from 2019 levels.
Lies, damned lies and "sadistics" - we took the reduction of 2-3 years in our stride, we should now take this increase of one year the same way - let's see if there is any analysis - I will take a pop in around March 2024 to include the 2023 data.
Thanks Peter, look at the seriously increased deaths in the old, the very young Blacks, Hispanics and especially Native Americans in 2022. This is aligned with Denis Rancourt's team initial analysis.
When I read this to my husband, a virologist/immunologist who worked in Public Health Dept (the folks who recommend how to handle epidemics, pandemics, disease control etc.) for many years and has over 50 yrs research behind - he rolled his eyes and snorted. He isn't buying these stats for one second. He also knows, thru personal experience, that CDC is run by crooks and not real scientists. A Nobel prize-winning scientist told him about 30 yrs ago that right after Clinton became prez, CDC fired just about all the scientists and hired public relations personnel to run things and "inform" the public.
Old Charlie boy undertook to stop his meddling in politics and particularly his enduring ‘climate’ lunacy - and here he is opening this jamboree.
The last so-called king who was mad at least had porphyria to excuse his derangement. Not so our Charlie.
Was taken aback seeing the ‘Day of Rest’, then remembered that even the real God took Sunday off. Perhaps these mini gods and idolaters figured it might be a bit too much of a cheek to choose the same day as well as the same biblical descriptor.
Wonder if anyone will corner them on the millions of tonnes of carbon emissions made by all those jets flying in all those parasites. And that doesn’t even include the hot air emanating from the attendees, all of whom so love the sound of their own hectoring inanities.
You are quite right about us withdrawing our funding via taxation - there must be ways to do that but I don’t know what they might be. Only that strategies must be loudly sought, promulgated and start a trend. That would scare the pants off them, as Matt Midazolam might say.
Its all so damned depressing, we simply must turn back to God and don't lose your joy or your faith, you're going to need those in the coming months and years.
A bit off topic, Peter, did you see this in the Wash Post? - - https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/11/29/life-expectancy-2022-united-states/ - - ..."Newly published data on life expectancy in the United States shows a partial rebound from the worst phase of the coronavirus pandemic, but drug overdoses, homicides and chronic illnesses such as heart disease continue to drive a long-term mortality crisis that has made this country an outlier in longevity among wealthy nations.
Life expectancy in 2022 rose more than a full year, to 77.5 years, in data released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. More than four-fifths of this positive jump was attributable to a drop in covid-19 deaths."...and it goes on about other countries. My assumption is the CDC is plain making this up, as more excess death news continues to roll in. What's your take?
Well, from here: https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2022/ there was s slight decline in the death rate over 2022 after the massive leap in 2020 and 2021.
To translate that to average life we would need to see the different age buckets to see the proportions dying by age.
There may be a few "dumbfounding" factors like the millions of illegal immigrants and their relatively younger ages that will have an impact - 3-4 million in 2022?
2023 numbers are showing some abatement to the extra deaths - maybe down to an extra 250,000 instead of the extra 560,000 in each of 2020, 2021 and 2022 - fingers crossed.
those recent year numbers are not "excess" deaths and do not adjust for population growth.
No matter how WaPo tries to spin it, the "pull forward" effect that bludgeons the elderly and infirm SHOULD have resulted in deaths that are way below 2019 levels - with, what I suspect should have been a large INCREASE in average life from 2019 levels.
Lies, damned lies and "sadistics" - we took the reduction of 2-3 years in our stride, we should now take this increase of one year the same way - let's see if there is any analysis - I will take a pop in around March 2024 to include the 2023 data.
Thanks Peter, look at the seriously increased deaths in the old, the very young Blacks, Hispanics and especially Native Americans in 2022. This is aligned with Denis Rancourt's team initial analysis.
When I read this to my husband, a virologist/immunologist who worked in Public Health Dept (the folks who recommend how to handle epidemics, pandemics, disease control etc.) for many years and has over 50 yrs research behind - he rolled his eyes and snorted. He isn't buying these stats for one second. He also knows, thru personal experience, that CDC is run by crooks and not real scientists. A Nobel prize-winning scientist told him about 30 yrs ago that right after Clinton became prez, CDC fired just about all the scientists and hired public relations personnel to run things and "inform" the public.
Old Charlie boy undertook to stop his meddling in politics and particularly his enduring ‘climate’ lunacy - and here he is opening this jamboree.
The last so-called king who was mad at least had porphyria to excuse his derangement. Not so our Charlie.
Was taken aback seeing the ‘Day of Rest’, then remembered that even the real God took Sunday off. Perhaps these mini gods and idolaters figured it might be a bit too much of a cheek to choose the same day as well as the same biblical descriptor.
Wonder if anyone will corner them on the millions of tonnes of carbon emissions made by all those jets flying in all those parasites. And that doesn’t even include the hot air emanating from the attendees, all of whom so love the sound of their own hectoring inanities.
You are quite right about us withdrawing our funding via taxation - there must be ways to do that but I don’t know what they might be. Only that strategies must be loudly sought, promulgated and start a trend. That would scare the pants off them, as Matt Midazolam might say.
Its all so damned depressing, we simply must turn back to God and don't lose your joy or your faith, you're going to need those in the coming months and years.